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    Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 8:12pm
Hi booked two show & shine tickets for this Sunday's Gaydon show
Is there a South East stand ?
I was sent South East display passes . Then called a few days later and sent two show and shine tickets and told to use them ?
Can any one help ? Bit confused
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There will be a SE region stand - what I was unaware of was whether there was a show and shine this year due to the concours being there - what were you told

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Hi Neil
On the Gaydon section of the web site it does say show & shine @£5.

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So will we be parked up as southeast or just all parked up ?
I was hoping to catch up with southeast members and have a chat for future events down near me in kent .
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Hi west

I am not sure with regards to your region as I am central region & have parked with them last year & will be again this year. Best to call the office to clarify what you have paid for & what they have sent to you for the event.
I don't know how the show & shine side of things work with regards to parking up / displaying as I have never entered into it.
Sorry I can't be of anymore help.

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Thank you for help rich
I will call in the morning and try and find out ?
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Originally posted by Cabrio Cabrio wrote:

There will be a SE region stand 


This is news to me, who is organising the SE area display.
Funny how this has appeared from a new forum member, after my previous post about the non existant SE area Ermm
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Who would I need to contact to find out about the stand ?
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Hia - I suggest the best person to ask is the office or you can contact Selwyn who coordinates SE Region - his contact details should be in the magazine - see you there - I am guessing you have an E36 Evo 

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Hi funny enough I own a e63 m6 .
It's just I can remember the m3 details easier one of my best cars I owned lol
Looking forward to it now polishes at the ready
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Its all numbers - E36 E63 - you seem to like 3's and 6's 

If you are in Kent it may also be worth catching up with some of the London people 

If you get stuck contacting anyone send me a message
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HI I AM GOING TO GAYDON BUT ON THE 02 STAND AS I HAVE A LOT OF BITS TO SELL HOPEFULLY
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Southeast stand had a lot of though put into it from what I see.
The sign for it was hand written .
Nice we can pay our membership and be represented so well
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A grand total of 5 cars were parked in the Southeast area, no sign of Area banner.
My point made perfectly.
Well done to Scotland region, brilliant turnout Clap 
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I was chatting with a lad from Scotland about his green m3 evo .
Real nice guy I loved his car .
Seemed a shame for the south east .

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South East has the largest number of members than any other region and has done for years 
Yet the region seems to fail in delivering true value for its regional members and especially when it comes to Gaydon.
So what is wrong down south??

I am not the one to ask but strongly suggest any number of you who are passionate speak to each other & Selwyn, find a pub within a reasonable distance and call an inaugural meet of the rejuvenated SE region.
Perhaps speak to George Champ- Regions Director for some help / advice first.

Can I also suggest some one speaks to Dan Norris Munich Legends who has bucket loads of enthusiasm for the car club & he may be the catalyst with an added bonus of a local sponsor perhaps.

Finally SE region does have the same 'corporate' BMWCC banners as all the other regions. If Selwyn does not have them then please check with / collect from former regional chair along with any other club owned stuff.

Hopefully with a little push in the right direction the next Melvyn Pettit may asise from the ashes.
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I was on the 02 stand I do have the banner but forgot to bring them all of our other gear is still in kent and we are still trying to get it back
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Steve H, I was discussing with Tim Maltby last night the low attendance for the Wessex region. It was quite confusing as he had been told by the club office that there were 16 people booked, in the event including him I think only 5 were there.

I was amazed that there were even a potential of 16, I have never seen more than 10 people at any Wessex regional event actually turn up. In the event it is usually the same 6 or 7 cars and most are Alpina, so would not be parked with the Wessex anyway.

I also spoke to another regional chairperson and they did not know how many people were coming or who, not sure why that information could not be provided?

If any former member is in possession of equipment, banner or publicity material owned by the club and are no longer active, I suggest the new incumbent informs the office and the directors write to the person who is alleged to still have the items giving them a time and location to return it?

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Originally posted by Norrie Norrie wrote:

Steve H, I was discussing with Tim Maltby last night the low attendance for the Wessex region. It was quite confusing as he had been told by the club office that there were 16 people booked, in the event including him I think only 5 were there.

I was amazed that there were even a potential of 16, I have never seen more than 10 people at any Wessex regional event actually turn up. In the event it is usually the same 6 or 7 cars and most are Alpina, so would not be parked with the Wessex anyway.

I also spoke to another regional chairperson and they did not know how many people were coming or who, not sure why that information could not be provided?

If any former member is in possession of equipment, banner or publicity material owned by the club and are no longer active, I suggest the new incumbent informs the office and the directors write to the person who is alleged to still have the items giving them a time and location to return it?



Norrie I don't want to start any trouble or major discussion with you but just want to point out that the regional and I think register chairs all received an email last week from the office with the numbers on our stand. However I already knew how many I was going to have because I had a list going on the forum and had asked everyone to let me know when they had got their tickets so I could keep my list up to date. It's all part of making folk feel welcome and having a build up to the show.The office told me I had 21 on my stand and I had 21 on it! I'm sorry but it's all about organisation by the regional chair or if he/she cannot do it, the delegated organiser and also making sure there is clear instructions for members before the event. We welcomed 5 new members to Gaydon this year and our stand was a great success as I'm sure you know!





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Issy, I think that you are very good at what you do and I agree that they way you operate works very well for your and your region. I could see you were all having a good time and enjoyed it as I hope others did.

However, I am pretty certain that in our region we do not have a definitive list of who is a Wessex member, many people who are members we have never seen and I am unsure how they are contacted? Despite quite a bit of publicity via the club, forums and social media we still don't get many takers, perhaps there is just too much to do in the
South. We also have lots of competitor groups down here, BMW enthusiasts group is growing, West Berkshire cruisers, Hampshire BMW drivers Club and so on.

I was at our pub meet last night and everyone except two owns an Alpina, so they would not be parking with the region at Gaydon for example and the other two are M cars, so same might apply for them?

It would be an interesting exercise to see how many people from a region like ours attended even if they parked elsewhere, if the majority are parked in other locations it might explain the low numbers parked in the region section?   

The email number was 16, but no names attached? In the event 16 people did not turn up only 5, it would be useful to understand who they were, why they did not come and if there was some kind of problem or issue. In the hope that we can get more people to attend next time?

I only am involved organising Alpina events, have done two this year overseas with Simon and everyone turned up and we all know what we are doing, down to booking travel, hotels, itinery, route planning. They were two fantastic trips and we will do more as we make more connections and friends in Europe. There are two more trips available this year one in Belgium and one in Germany.

I am pleased you are growing in numbers and it is good you all enjoyed it. I am not knocking the regional unity and it is admirable that you are able to get all model types together.


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Norman you have hit the crux of the problem.
Gaydon should be about the Regions (remember Regions are for people Registers for cars)
It would be so much better in many respects to have all members attending parking with their Regions.
This will bring new & old faces together so there can be some socialising which will hopefully get some more to attend pub meets or other regional events.
It can also be the spring board for some inter regional challenges - yes get people involved having FUN.
Could even be awards for best regional display, themed displays, driving skills, wellie wanging, tug-o-war etc etc

The cars would then not be rows of the same but mixed amongst each region.

I do appreciate Alpina may still stand alone but would not have too - needs some thought but the principal is key IMO.
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Nice idea from Mr Haslem liking the idea

Would think could keep models together for anniversaries etc but in principle it has merit
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Thanks Norrie I have added comments below.

Originally posted by Norrie Norrie wrote:

Issy, I think that you are very good at what you do and I agree that they way you operate works very well for your and your region. I could see you were all having a good time and enjoyed it as I hope others did.

Thank you and we did and I am sure others did too!

However, I am pretty certain that in our region we do not have a definitive list of who is a Wessex member, many people who are members we have never seen and I am unsure how they are contacted?

The office now sends out the up to date lists of members to each regional/register chair monthly so there should be a list somewhere? I also have many members who I have never met or seen but i do my best to communicate to them using the various communication channels available to us. If your regional chair or anyone else wants to contact all the members in your region its very simple just email what you want to send to the office and they will email all the regions members for you using the tool they now have.

Despite quite a bit of publicity via the club, forums and social media we still don't get many takers, perhaps there is just too much to do in the
South. We also have lots of competitor groups down here, BMW enthusiasts group is growing, West Berkshire cruisers, Hampshire BMW drivers Club and so on.

I agree and  think we all have that issue and have many other groups to compete with but I think its all about standing out in the crowd and getting a core of people together regularly who can enthuse about the club to others and encourage them to come along.


I was at our pub meet last night and everyone except two owns an Alpina, so they would not be parking with the region at Gaydon for example and the other two are M cars, so same might apply for them?

It would be an interesting exercise to see how many people from a region like ours attended even if they parked elsewhere, if the majority are parked in other locations it might explain the low numbers parked in the region section?  

Yes you could be right!

The email number was 16, but no names attached? In the event 16 people did not turn up only 5, it would be useful to understand who they were, why they did not come and if there was some kind of problem or issue. In the hope that we can get more people to attend next time?

I understand what you are saying and it is difficult if members want to go with the register instead of the region. I suppose we are lucky everyone wants to be on the regional stand. But I wonder if that because I organise it myself on the regional page therefore I know who is attending. I also emailled the office and asked for the list of names and I got it. All be it a few weeks before the show but it gave me a good idea that my list was right. They are too busy the week before the event to send this kind of thing out.

I only am involved organising Alpina events, have done two this year overseas with Simon and everyone turned up and we all know what we are doing, down to booking travel, hotels, itinery, route planning. They were two fantastic trips and we will do more as we make more connections and friends in Europe. There are two more trips available this year one in Belgium and one in Germany.

Well done so you must be doing something right then so can this not filter back into the region especially when other members see you are having a great time?

I am pleased you are growing in numbers and it is good you all enjoyed it. I am not knocking the regional unity and it is admirable that you are able to get all model types together.

I know that and thank you but please don't think I am being big headed or boasting because I am not. I am just sharing what works for us and hopefully some other regions may look at us and see we are having a great time and maybe find what I have typed useful to help them get their regions moving! If I help one region by sharing our processes I will be happy!

The office doesn't organise the regional/register stands at Gaydon they only sell the tickets therefore its up to us a chairpersons to make it a success, whatever way is best for us!




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That makes sense that the successful regions and registers can assist others with ideas it's a two way street with ideas and can only help the club as a whole
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Originally posted by Cabrio Cabrio wrote:

That makes sense that the successful regions and registers can assist others with ideas it's a two way street with ideas and can only help the club as a whole


Exactly but I not saying that it will solve all the problems as our ideas may not suit other regions/registers but I am always happy to give it a try! Big smile
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hi imust admit from what I have heard the south east was a shambles I could not find them with all the troubles we have had this last year its a wonder we had a stand iam trying to bring the region back together so hopefully will get it right next year
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First things first, I wish the SE region the best with re-envigorating things.  None of what I say below is intended critically.
 
I completely agree with issy about what's needed to get things going in a region (or register for that matter).  it takes much energy and communication on the part of the organiser to design fun events, then promote them, and finally execute them.  If the communications and events create an impression of a group having fun, then much more people will want to come and join.  I have found that sending photos out after the event to all potential attendees is really helpful, for example.  (Note to self, must start using facebook for this).
 
This process can be difficult to start from scratch, as its hard to gain momentum.  Like pulling away in your car in 3rd gear.  It takes quite a bit of emailing and persistence I think.  But when things get going, and the word spreads, a virtual cycle starts and everything gets easier.  One thing I would caution against is expressing frustration to your members about lack of attendance (that doesnt create a positive impression of the events) or expecting the office to spoonfeed you.  Everyone is quite stretched for time, so if you want to organise a successful event then doing your own comms, and maintaining your own attendee lists, is the best way I think.
 
Once again, best wishes to Selwyn.
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Issy, thanks for your comments. I will check with Tim Maltby and see if there is an up to date list and also if we can email people and see what interest we can get.

We are coordinating with the lady who runs a SE region pub meet just 18 miles from ours and she and her husband came to our meet this week and we are going to theirs next Tuesday. Hopefully that will bring a few people closer.

One element that might have been missed is this, and it was true in my case and I know of others. Some people have come along to the National Festival, parked in region section, in their E30 or 7 series or M car or whatever it is, then gone along and chatted to that specific register, from that point on the don't want to park with the region.

For me, I would prefer to park with my fellow register owners than in a region at the National Festival. If this was not an option
then generally I guess people would have to make their mind up how it suited them.

However, are there not a host of people who come to see specific groups of cars? It would make it quite difficult to find them if they were spread over a number of regions?

I think this require quite a lot of canvassing and discussion between registers and regions, not one want people not to attend as they are not parked in the peer groups?


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Selwyn, can I ask you why you have your pub meet at Kingsfold on a Sat night?. It is not that far from me, but most Sat nights in the summer I am elsewhere attending car events?

Do you have a list of club members say within a 10 or 20 mile radius of Horsham? I would be happy to contact them and see if we could arrange a pub meet during the week local to this area. Gatwick is about 12 miles east for those reading not familiar with the geography.
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Originally posted by Westm3evo Westm3evo wrote:

I was chatting with a lad from Scotland about his green m3 evo .
Real nice guy I loved his car .
Seemed a shame for the south east .



That was my son😇😇😇

The SE region is no bigger than ours geographically.

When the Scottish region was resurrected 13-14 years ago by james Westwood and fraser Darcy we had a pub meet on a Sunday (can't remember which)of every month at the same pub.

This worked fine as a starting block and once we had some numbers people became bored of this.

Duncan ireland then took over and we changed it to doing runs as well
As shows

Issy took over and this has grown to a fixed first Sunday of every month (pay weekend) dine and drives organised by different people each month but under the watchful Eye of the chair incase the designated organiser forgets or real Life gets in the way.

This has been a proven formula since I've been a member which is now 13 years.

We move about the country every month so
As to involve as many members as we can.

The majority of us are in the central
Belt but we try to include the highlands and lowlands as much as possible.

In fact sept embers meet is in kielder Forrest where we are meeting up with our northeast and west cousins

We use Facebook to promote ourselves pretty successfully but all organisation is done via this forum.

In essence you need willing and enthusiastic volunteers good communications and a willingness to try different things. Once you have this formula people will come to your meets and from that shares ideas will become your next meet.
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